IBP#013: How to Leave Your Job to Start Your Business, with Pam Slim [Podcast]

I‘m thrilled to bring another podcast out of the Indie Business archives today! Why not? I've kept these timeless recordings to myself for long enough, and I'm excited to share them with you. In this episode, Pam Slim shares her tips and insights to help you transition from a traditional job to start your business, and perhaps, the life of your dreams.

Indie Business Podcast Episode 13 with Donna Maria and Pam Slim
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Whether or not you think you want to start a business, the truth is that everyone really needs to know how to do it — even people who feel they are better suited for a traditional work environment.

Pam Slim, entrepreneur, author, speaker

Our conversation was so much fun that I urge you to head over to iTunes and grab it right now! It's Episode Number 13, labeled “IBP#013” in iTunes.

Episode 13 Show Notes

    1. Work your side hustle first. Your track record is at least as important as a business plan, so don't throw all your resources into preparing a business plan without actually making your offerings available for people to buy and love. A business plan can't take the place of you selling real products and services to real people. Before you start your own business on a full-time basis, work out the kinks and begin to build your market and your brand so that when you do make the leap, you have a track record. There are execeptions to this, and you can dive into those in the episode recording.


    1. Know what you would do if you needed to make a living without a “job”. For some people, the preferred work situation is working as an employee, but having something else to mitigate the risks of losing a job is a smart option to consider. Whether or not you think you want to start a business, the truth is that everyone really needs to know how to do it — even people who feel they are better suited for a traditional work environment.If you don't choose to work entrepreneurially, you put yourself at risk for losing a job and not being able to make a living doing something else.


  1. Four stages to approach entrepreneurship. Pam walks us through four stages you will go through as you start your business. From working with your “muse” to creating your first prototypes, you'll get some great ideas for bringing your idea to market in the segment.

Pam and I also discuss “how not to get in a business rut” and how to “make fear your friend.” Pam shares great case study examples of people who have successfully “escaped from cubicle nation.”

There are so many insightful parts to my chat with Pam, that I can’t list them all here. You definitely want to make sure you get this episode now.

About Pam Slim

Pamela Slim is an award-winning author, business coach and speaker. Pam’s first book Escape from Cubicle Nation: From Corporate Prisoner to Thriving Entrepreneur was released in Spring 2009 and won Best Small Business/Entrepreneur Book of 2009 by 800 CEO Read. Her most recent book, Body of Work, gives a fresh perspective on the skills required in the new world of work for people in all work modes, from corporate to non-profit to small business.

Follow Pam on Twitter here or Facebook, and check out her website here.

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Do you think you are “cut out” for entrepreneurship? What do you think of Pam's approach to get ready either way? Have you transitioned from traditional work to start your business, or are you doing so now? Please share your experienced and feedback with us!

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About Donna Maria Coles Johnson

Donna Maria is an author, podcaster, attorney, and the founder and CEO of the Indie Business Network, providing affordable product liability insurance and mentoring. Donna Maria teaches Makers and Creative Entrepreneurs how to use technology and community to build a profitable, sustainable business.